What McVeigh's "authorized biography" says about the Elohim City connection:
McVeigh admitted calling Elohim City for Andreas ("Andy the German") Strassmeir on 4/5/95. He
says the purpose of the call was ask Strassmeir,who he met at a Tulsa gun show in 1994, whether
he could use Elohim City as a hideout after the bombing (p244). McVeigh admitting discussing
political issues with Strassmeir, the grandson of a founder of the Nazi party, but claimed that
Strassmeir had nothing to do with the bombing itself. A polygraph test taken by McVeigh, however,
showed that while he was truthful in discussing his own role in the bombing, he "showed signs of
evasion" when he said no persons, other than those already charged, were involved in the bombing (p351).
What federal agents said in a memo written on 4/20/1995:
"It is suspected that members of Elohim City are involved either directly or indirectly through
What McVeigh's defense attorney, Steven Jones, said:
"I don't doubt Tim's role in the conspiracy. But I think he clearly aggrandized his role, enlarged it,
to cover for others who were involved." (AP, 2/13/2003)
What the FBI's scene commander for the Oklahoma City investigation, Danny Coulson, said in 2003:
"I think you have too many coincidences here that raise questions about whether other people are
involved. The close associations with Elohim City and the earlier plan [of Elohim City residents] to
do the same Murrah Building all suggest the complicity of other people." (AP, 2/13/2003)
What Dan Defenbaugh, retired FBI Chief of the Oklahoma City bombing investigation said in 2003:
"If I were still in the bureau, the investigation would be reopened."
What two fellow inmates on death row say McVeigh
revealed to them (from Secrets Worth Dying For,
by David Hammer and Jeffrey Paul (2004)):
After receiving a tour of the Elohim City compound
on 10/12/1993, McVeigh and Nichols had a meeting
with Andreas Strassmeir and several other men to
discuss "direct action against the federal
government" (p158). Within months, McVeigh had
joined two of the men he met at Elohim City in
robbing banks (McVeigh served as the getaway driver)
around the Midwest (p159). In April 1994, in a
meeting with Strassmeir and White Aryan Resistance
leader Dennis Mahon, McVeigh first discussed blowing
up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City (p164). In
September 1994, McVeigh attended a series of planning
meetings in Elohim City (p167). In early 1995,
McVeigh and members of the Aryan Resistance (ARA) from
Elohim City were conducting practice runs of the
bombing (p173). Michael Brescia was chosen to
accompany McVeigh on his bombing run (p174). On April
8, McVeigh met in Tulsa with Brescia and Strassmeir
to discuss the bombing [and watch strippers?--see box
to lower left](p175). Brescia and other
ARA members assisted McVeigh in loading explosives
into the Ryder truck and mixing them (p177-78).
Brescia rode into Oklahoma City in the Ryder truck
with McVeigh on 4/19/95, exiting at a stoplight and
NW 5th Street and Harvey. McVeigh then parked the
truck in front of the Murrah Building and quickly
walked in the direction of his getaway car (p182-83).
What a 2003 AP report said about McVeigh's
connection to Elohim City and white supremacists:
AP writer John Solomon's investigation led him to
conclude that white supremacists from Elohim City
played a major role in the bombing conspiracy.
Solomon noted, for example, an FBI teletype showed
that on April 16, 1995 two Elohim City gang members
left the compound for a location in Kansas close to
"where McVeigh was doing the final assembly of his
bomb." Solomon also reported that two Elohim City
gang members, Kevin Langan and Mark Thomas, told
federal agents that they could provide information
linking McVeigh to Ayran Resistance. Even more
compelling evidence, Solomon reported, came from
informant John Shults, who "told agents in 1997 that
he was sure 'beyond a shadow of a doubt' he saw
McVeigh at Elohim City in 1994 at a meeting about a
mysterious delivery and use of a Ryder truck."
happened on April 19, 1995?
story by Howard Pankratz in the Denver
Former members of a radical paramilitary
group and a retired FBI agent
believe last year's bombing of the Alfred
P. Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City may have been revenge for
the execution of one of its
Richard Wayne Snell, a member of the
Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of
the Lord (CSA), was executed on April 19,
1995 - 12 hours after an oil
and gas fertilizer bomb ripped the Murrah
building apart, killing 168
Snell and the CSA had targeted the same
federal building for bombing
after the 1983 death of North Dakota
farmer Gordon Kahl in a fiery
confrontation with federal authorities in
A former high-ranking Arkansas prison
official told The Denver Post
that during the four days before Snell's
execution, Snell repeatedly
predicted that there would be a bombing or
an explosion the day of his
The official, Alan Ables, said he was so
concerned that he took
extraordinary personal precautions the day
of the execution. "Based on
what I was hearing from the management
team and ... briefings, I was
concerned enough" to take the precautions,
said Ables, a retired Navy
officer who was legislative assistant to
the director of the Arkansas
Department of Corrections....
1996 story in the Spokane
According to the manager of a
Spokane motel, about
7:15 PST (45 minutes before the bombing),
Chevie Kehoe, a former resident of Elohim
City, asked to
have the motel's lobby television turned
to CNN. According to the manager,
"Days before that , he had mentioned to me
that there's going to be
something happening on the 19th and it's
going to wake people
up." The manager described Kehoe as
ecstatic when the bombing was
announced on television. "It is about
time," Kehoe reportedly exclaimed.
12, 1993 ticket for prohibited passing on
Ark. State Hwy #59, 12 miles
City. Agents also located a hotel
receipt showing McVeigh stayed
at a motel in Vian, Oklahoma, just miles
from Elohim City on September
13, 1994, the day that a grand jury
concluded he formulated the
OKC bombing plot.
Informant Carol Howe's Testimony Concerning
McVeigh's Presence at Elohim City
(Terry Nichols Trial)
"Elohim City" is
located on a
mountainous 400-acre tract of land in Adair County,
Q. Now, are you familiar with what Timothy McVeigh looks like,
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you seen photographs of Timothy McVeigh?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. Did you ever see Timothy McVeigh at the Elohim City
A. I believe I did.
Q. All right. When did you see him?
A. It was in July of 1994.
Q. Okay. And where did you see him?
A. He was at a section of the compound walking across a lawn
near the church building.
Q. And was he accompanied by any other individuals who you
A. Yes, he was.
Q. And who were they?
A. A man named Peter Ward and a man named Andreas Strassmeier.
Q. About how far away were you when you believe you saw
A. Approximately 70 feet.
Q. At the time that you saw him, did you know his name was
A. No, sir.
Q. You subsequently came to learn his name was Timothy
Q. Now, did you have occasion to--did Mr. Mahon-- strikethat.
Did Mr. Mahon
have an apartment in Tulsa, Oklahoma,during this time period?
A. A house, yes.
Q. A house. And did you have occasion to spend time there
during the time period we're talking about, fall, 1994?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did Mr. Mahon in your recollection--did he ever receive
any phone calls while you were in the house with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you recall Mr. Mahon ever saying or mentioning the name
MS. WILKINSON: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
BY MR. THURSCHWELL:
Q. Okay. Could you tell the jury not any contents of the
phone call that he related to you but how you came to hear
his name; that is, Tim Tuttle's name?
A. Mr. Mahon received a phone call. We were sitting in the
living room. He went into the bedroom to answer the phone, and
I heard his statements from where I was sitting.
Q. And what did you hear him say?
A. I heard him say, "Tim Tuttle, Tuttle, Tuttle, Tuttle,
Tuttle," and laughed.
Q. And you subsequently had a conversation about that phone
call that he had received?
A. Yes. When he came back --
*"Tim Tuttle" is an alias that McVeigh admits having used.
Oklahoma, just northwest of Fort Smith,
John Doe No. 2?
John Doe #2 as being a handsome, muscular man
with an olive
people--including McVeigh, according to two
men who shared death row
with him--have suggested that ARA member
Brescia was John Doe #2.
Brescia, in a 1997 plea bargain made the day
government announced John Doe #2 never
existed, admitted to robbing one
bank and served four years in prison.
Other witnesses, perhaps
more credible, insist that Brescia is not
John Doe #2, and that the real John Doe #2 is
taller (about 5'10") and
older (about 30) and more reclusive than
FBI Reports Concerning John Doe #2 and Others
claimed to have met McVeigh this month at a
gun show in
Tulsa. (phone interview)
a room at the El Siesta Motel near Elohim City
guest at the Dreamland Motel in Junction City
saw a man who resembled
John Doe 2 near McVeigh's room.
man delivering pizza to McVeigh's room at the
Dreamland Motel said he
gave the pizza to a man who was neither
McVeigh or John Doe 2.
two Dreamland guests, at 1 a.m, man
stuck his head out of the
room rented to McVeigh. The man
resembled John Doe 2.
white supremacist member in Utah places the
first of a series of phone
calls over the next two days to the Oklahoma
City Radisson Inn.
A guest at the Dreamland sees the driver (who
is not McVeigh) of a
Ryder truck get out of the truck and walk into
the motel office.
The man resembled John Doe 2, according to the
At 9 p.m., man at a convenience
store in Herington saw
McVeigh and a man "who fit the general
description" of John Doe 2.
saw McVeigh and John Doe 2 park a Ryder truck
in front of a
Hardee's in Junction City.
At 8 a.m., the couple that own the Santa Fe
Trail Diner in Herington
say they saw McVeigh, Nichols, and a third man
have breakfast in their
restaurant. The third man "resembled
John Doe 2."
Witnesses see a Ryder truck and a blue or
brown pickup truck at Geary
Lake around 9-10 a.m.
At 7 p.m., the owners of a steakhouse in
Perry, Oklahoma see McVeigh
and "a stocky companion" eat in their
restaurant. They notice a
Ryder truck parked in their lot.
surveillance camera south of Witchita films a
Ryder truck with two men
in it, and a dark pickup following closely
Two men, including McVeigh, reportedly make an
early morning stop for
coffee in Mulhall, Oklahoma, just off I-35.
At 8:30 a.m., according to the employee of an
Oklahoma City tire store,
two men driving in a Ryder truck stop and ask
directions to NW 5th
Street and Harvey. McVeigh was the
driver and the other man, with
a darker complexion, wore a baseball cap.
Lady Godiva's, a Tulsa strip club where on
1995, a security camera
seems to capture McVeigh on tape telling a
will be "famous" on April 19.
at Lady Godiva's?
published reports, a security camera in the
dressing room of Lady
Godiva's, a strip club in Tulsa, captured an
interesting scene on April
8, 1995. (The tape has appeared on
Canadian television and has
been reviewed by the FBI.) On the tape,
a man (who witnesses at
the club say was McVeigh) is heard saying to a
dancer, "I'm a very
smart man...And on April 19, 1995, you'll
remember me for the rest of
your life." The dancer laughs and says,
"Oh, really?" The
man replies, "Yes, you will." The dancer
walks out of the
dressing room and says to other dancers,
Witnesses at the club, after looking at
photos, say they saw McVeigh,
along with Andreas Strassmeir and another man
Brescia), sitting together at