What McVeigh's "authorized biography" says about the Elohim City connection:
McVeigh admitted calling Elohim City for Andreas ("Andy the German") Strassmeir on 4/5/95. He
says the purpose of the call was ask Strassmeir,who he met at a Tulsa gun show in 1994, whether
he could use Elohim City as a hideout after the bombing (p244). McVeigh admitting discussing
political issues with Strassmeir, the grandson of a founder of the Nazi party, but claimed that
Strassmeir had nothing to do with the bombing itself. A polygraph test taken by McVeigh, however,
showed that while he was truthful in discussing his own role in the bombing, he "showed signs of
evasion" when he said no persons, other than those already charged, were involved in the bombing (p351).
What federal agents said in a memo written on 4/20/1995:
"It is suspected that members of Elohim City are involved either directly or indirectly through
What McVeigh's defense attorney, Steven Jones, said:
"I don't doubt Tim's role in the conspiracy. But I think he clearly aggrandized his role, enlarged it,
to cover for others who were involved." (AP, 2/13/2003)
What the FBI's scene commander for the Oklahoma City investigation, Danny Coulson, said in 2003:
"I think you have too many coincidences here that raise questions about whether other people are
involved. The close associations with Elohim City and the earlier plan [of Elohim City residents] to
do the same Murrah Building all suggest the complicity of other people." (AP, 2/13/2003)
What Dan Defenbaugh, retired FBI Chief of the Oklahoma City bombing investigation said in 2003:
"If I were still in the bureau, the investigation would be reopened."
What two fellow inmates on death row say McVeigh revealed to them (from Secrets Worth Dying For,
by David Hammer and Jeffrey Paul (2004)):
After receiving a tour of the Elohim City compound on 10/12/1993, McVeigh and Nichols had a meeting
with Andreas Strassmeir and several other men to discuss "direct action against the federal
government" (p158). Within months, McVeigh had joined two of the men he met at Elohim City in
robbing banks (McVeigh served as the getaway driver)around the Midwest (p159). In April 1994, in a
meeting with Strassmeir and White Aryan Resistance leader Dennis Mahon, McVeigh first discussed blowing
up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City (p164). In September 1994, McVeigh attended a series of planning
meetings in Elohim City (p167). In early 1995,McVeigh and members of the Aryan Resistance (ARA) from
Elohim City were conducting practice runs of the bombing (p173). Michael Brescia was chosen to
accompany McVeigh on his bombing run (p174). On April 8, McVeigh met in Tulsa with Brescia and Strassmeir
to discuss the bombing [and watch strippers?--see box to lower left](p175). Brescia and other
ARA members assisted McVeigh in loading explosives into the Ryder truck and mixing them (p177-78).
Brescia rode into Oklahoma City in the Ryder truck with McVeigh on 4/19/95, exiting at a stoplight and
NW 5th Street and Harvey. McVeigh then parked the truck in front of the Murrah Building and quickly
walked in the direction of his getaway car (p182-83).
What a 2003 AP report said about McVeigh's connection to Elohim City and white supremacists:
AP writer John Solomon's investigation led him to conclude that white supremacists from Elohim City
played a major role in the bombing conspiracy. Solomon noted, for example, an FBI teletype showed
that on April 16, 1995 two Elohim City gang members left the compound for a location in Kansas close to
"where McVeigh was doing the final assembly of his bomb." Solomon also reported that two Elohim City
gang members, Kevin Langan and Mark Thomas, told federal agents that they could provide information
linking McVeigh to Ayran Resistance. Even more compelling evidence, Solomon reported, came from
informant John Shults, who "told agents in 1997 that he was sure 'beyond a shadow of a doubt' he saw
McVeigh at Elohim City in 1994 at a meeting about a mysterious delivery and use of a Ryder truck."
happened on April 19, 1995?
a 5/12/1996 story by Howard Pankratz in
the Denver Post:
Former members of a radical paramilitary
group and a retired FBI agent believe last
year's bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah
Federal Building in Oklahoma City may have
been revenge for the execution of one of
Richard Wayne Snell, a member of the
Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the
Lord (CSA), was executed on April 19, 1995
- 12 hours after an oil and gas fertilizer
bomb ripped the Murrah building apart,
killing 168 people.
Snell and the CSA had targeted the same
federal building for bombing after the
1983 death of North Dakota farmer Gordon
Kahl in a fiery confrontation with federal
authorities in Arkansas....
A former high-ranking Arkansas prison
official told The Denver Post that during
the four days before Snell's execution,
Snell repeatedly predicted that there
would be a bombing or an explosion the day
of his death.
The official, Alan Ables, said he was so
concerned that he took extraordinary
personal precautions the day of the
execution. "Based on what I was hearing
from the management team and ...
briefings, I was concerned enough" to take
the precautions, said Ables, a retired
Navy officer who was legislative assistant
to the director of the Arkansas Department
In Spokane, Washington
a January 1996 story in the Spokane
According to the manager of a
Spokane motel, about 7:15 PST (45 minutes
before the bombing), Chevie Kehoe, a
former resident of Elohim City, asked to
have the motel's lobby television turned
to CNN. According to the manager,
"Days before that , he had mentioned to me
that there's going to be something
happening on the 19th and it's going to
wake people up." The manager
described Kehoe as ecstatic when the
bombing was announced on television. "It
is about time," Kehoe reportedly
City" is located on a mountainous
400-acre tract of land in Adair County,
Oklahoma, just northwest of Fort
October 12, 1993 ticket for prohibited
passing on Ark. State Hwy #59, 12 miles from
Elohim City. Agents also located a
hotel receipt showing McVeigh stayed at a
motel in Vian, Oklahoma, just miles from
Elohim City on September 13, 1994, the day
that a grand jury concluded he
formulated the OKC bombing plot.
ATF Informant Carol
Howe's Testimony Concerning
McVeigh's Presence at Elohim City
(Terry Nichols Trial)
Q. Now, are you familiar with what Timothy McVeigh looks like,
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you seen photographs of Timothy McVeigh?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. Did you ever see Timothy McVeigh at the Elohim City
A. I believe I did.
Q. All right. When did you see him?
A. It was in July of 1994.
Q. Okay. And where did you see him?
A. He was at a section of the compound walking across a lawn
near the church building.
Q. And was he accompanied by any other individuals who you
A. Yes, he was.
Q. And who were they?
A. A man named Peter Ward and a man named Andreas Strassmeier.
Q. About how far away were you when you believe you saw
A. Approximately 70 feet.
Q. At the time that you saw him, did you know his name was
A. No, sir.
Q. You subsequently came to learn his name was Timothy
Q. Now, did you have occasion to--did Mr. Mahon-- strikethat.
Did Mr. Mahon
have an apartment in Tulsa, Oklahoma,during this time period?
A. A house, yes.
Q. A house. And did you have occasion to spend time there
during the time period we're talking about, fall, 1994?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did Mr. Mahon in your recollection--did he ever receive
any phone calls while you were in the house with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you recall Mr. Mahon ever saying or mentioning the name
MS. WILKINSON: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
BY MR. THURSCHWELL:
Q. Okay. Could you tell the jury not any contents of the
phone call that he related to you but how you came to hear
his name; that is, Tim Tuttle's name?
A. Mr. Mahon received a phone call. We were sitting in the
living room. He went into the bedroom to answer the phone, and
I heard his statements from where I was sitting.
Q. And what did you hear him say?
A. I heard him say, "Tim Tuttle, Tuttle, Tuttle, Tuttle,
Tuttle," and laughed.
Q. And you subsequently had a conversation about that phone
call that he had received?
A. Yes. When he came back --
*"Tim Tuttle" is an alias that McVeigh admits having used.
John Doe No. 2?
"John Doe #2"
described John Doe #2 as being a handsome,
muscular man with an olive complexion.
Daina Bradley told investigators that she saw
John Doe #2 drive the Ryder truck to the
Murrah building, get out, do something
[relight the bomb?] in the back of the truck,
Several people--including McVeigh, according
to two men who shared death row with him--have
suggested that ARA member Brescia was John Doe
#2. Brescia, in a 1997 plea bargain made
the day after the government announced John
Doe #2 never existed, admitted to robbing one
bank and served four years in prison.
Other people who claim knowledge of events,
perhaps more credible, insist that Brescia is
John Doe #2, and that the real John Doe
#2 is a man he met in Kingman, Arizona, Joey
Selected FBI Reports Concerning John Doe #2 and
claimed to have met McVeigh this month at a
gun show in Tulsa. (phone interview)
a room at the El Siesta Motel near Elohim City
guest at the Dreamland Motel in Junction City
saw a man who resembled John Doe 2 near
man delivering pizza to McVeigh's room at the
Dreamland Motel said he gave the pizza to a
man who was neither McVeigh or John Doe 2.
two Dreamland guests, at 1 a.m, man
stuck his head out of the room rented to
McVeigh. The man resembled John Doe 2.
white supremacist member in Utah places the
first of a series of phone calls over the next
two days to the Oklahoma City Radisson Inn.
A guest at the Dreamland sees the driver (who
is not McVeigh) of a Ryder truck get out of
the truck and walk into the motel
office. The man resembled John Doe 2,
according to the guest.
At 9 p.m., man at a convenience
store in Herington saw McVeigh and a man "who
fit the general description" of John Doe 2.
saw McVeigh and John Doe 2 park a Ryder truck
in front of a Hardee's in Junction City.
At 8 a.m., the couple that own the Santa Fe
Trail Diner in Herington say they saw McVeigh,
Nichols, and a third man have breakfast in
their restaurant. The third man
"resembled John Doe 2."
Witnesses see a Ryder truck and a blue or
brown pickup truck at Geary Lake around 9-10
At 7 p.m., the owners of a steakhouse in
Perry, Oklahoma see McVeigh and "a stocky
companion" eat in their restaurant. They
notice a Ryder truck parked in their lot.
surveillance camera south of Witchita films a
Ryder truck with two men in it, and a dark
pickup following closely behind.
Two men, including McVeigh, reportedly make an
early morning stop for coffee in Mulhall,
Oklahoma, just off I-35.
At 8:30 a.m., according to the employee of an
Oklahoma City tire store, two men driving in a
Ryder truck stop and ask directions to NW 5th
Street and Harvey. McVeigh was the
driver and the other man, with a darker
complexion, wore a baseball cap.
An Interesting Post (Democratic Forum, 4/20/2013)
McVeigh, army buddy Terry Nichols, Jose
"Joey" Leon, and Leon's uncle, Mr. Kintop,
banded together to test the directional
blast of bombs. Then McVeigh, Nichols
and Leon built the bomb at Geary Lake,
Kansas. Then Joey Leon drove the bomb
to Oklahoma City and blew up the Murrah
Federal building. They made sure that
they bombed the building during business
hours to make sure that people were
killed. With careful planning, they
killed without guns. Joey Leon even
got away with it, after diverting FBI agents
away from Kingman, Arizona with his Sons of
the Gestapo derailing of the Amtrak, Sunset
Limited, near Hyder, Arizona (also near Palo
Verde, Arizona and near Gila Bend,
Arizona). Leon had to flee to his
parent's home in Anaheim, California after
that. Joey Leon ($2,000,000 reward)
was never caught, so he continued terrorism
against America. Guns were not the
root cause of this terrorism. These
terrorists were drawn together when they
joined Sammy Gravano's (Mafia hit man's)
neo-Nazi narcotics cartel in Arizona.
It put together like minded, drug addict,
nuts. A few days after the Murrah
bombing, I was talking it over with Joey
Leon and found out that they had to ad-lib
to get the job done--their brains were
functioning. The problem was, Joey lit
the fuse inside the cab of the bomb truck,
but he said that the fuse doused going
through the hole from the cab to the bomb,
so he had to get out of the truck, open the
back of the truck, and relight the
fuse. So, Joey's mind was not so wiped
out by drugs that he couldn't think of a way
of fixing a problem. Joey did the
bombing for bragging rights (and he bragged
to me about bombing the Murrah building with
his best friend, Timothy McVeigh. Even
before the Murrah bombing, he used to talk
about McVeigh a lot). The court
ignored all dozen witnesses (all with the
same info--recognizing Leon's white hat with
it's purple flame pattern) and made up a
fairy tale that McVeigh was the lone
bomber. Drugs, Nazism, and ego caused
the terrorism, not guns.
Lady Godiva's, a Tulsa strip club where on
April 8, 1995, a security camera
seems to capture McVeigh on tape telling a
stripper that he
will be "famous" on April 19.
at Lady Godiva's?
to published reports, a security camera in the
dressing room of Lady Godiva's, a strip club
in Tulsa, captured an interesting scene on
April 8, 1995. (The tape has appeared on
Canadian television and has been reviewed by
the FBI.) On the tape, a man (who
witnesses at the club say was McVeigh) is
heard saying to a dancer, "I'm a very smart
man...And on April 19, 1995, you'll remember
me for the rest of your life." The
dancer laughs and says, "Oh, really?"
The man replies, "Yes, you will." The
dancer walks out of the dressing room and says
to other dancers, "Weirdo."
Witnesses at the club, after looking at
photos, say they saw McVeigh, along with
Andreas Strassmeir and another man (John Doe
#2?), sitting together at a table.